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Dec. 27th, 2006 @ 02:52 pm Post-Christmas reading rant
Oh yes, this is the best time of year to have some reading marathons (instead of watching tv) :p Too bad I can't say I had some quality reading time.

There have been couple of things bothering me when reading a story. This goes both to writers and readers.

Let's start with readers. Comments like - "write more NOW!" or "You should totally do this/that" won't make me want to write more or faster - that's if I would write in the first place. Or better yet "OMGZ LIEK TEH BESTEZ STORY EVA" - Um... I think it's about time to clean your keyboard, your capslock seems to be STUCK! Not to mention - I'm not quite sure what language you were writing in! Leave those freaking acronyms for chat or sms-ing when you really need to save letter space.

Writers. For most of the time I prefer to call them authors. It's hard to call you a writer when:
1. your story consists of plain dialog
2. you don't type out full words but use acronyms (same goes for numbers)
3. you are too lazy to use spellcheck (it's not that hard, really)
4. you can't be bothered to do some basic research on the topic you chose for your story (you can't feel a baby kick in the first month of pregnancy and you don't start having all pregnancy symptoms next morning after sexual intercourse)
5. you can't be bothered to check how to write main character names properly (it's Seeley not Seely and Tempe not Temp)
6. you let readers decide what will happen next in the story (better yet - you initiate reader wars to decide which pairing should win)
7. you make readers leave a certain amount of comments or you won't write more (do me a favor - just DON'T write at all)

Constructive criticism. Dear reader - "Your story sucks" is not a criticism, it's a flame. Dear writer - bitching because I pointed out (nicely) some basic stuff you should or shouldn't do, deleting my comment and going bitching some more that I'm a bad guy - makes me wonder just how old you are. Can't take criticism? Well maybe you should disable commenting then.

P.s. I apologize for the rant. But I really, really wanted to get this off my chest!

*hops off the soap box*
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diabolitos:
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From:like_electric
Date:December 27th, 2006 01:13 pm (UTC)
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you don't type out full words but use acronyms (same goes for numbers)


I never cease to be amazed at this one. If I hadn't seen it so much myself, I'd find it hard to believe that so many people actually write things like 'OMG' and, even worse, 'u' or 'u r' in their fics. And, it's not always dialog. I've seen it done in narrative. ::shudders::

your story consists of plain dialog

I think this one can actually be done well, but in my experience it only really works for humor and needs to be fairly short. But, I definitely know what you mean - you need to posses a fair amount of wit to pull it off.

you can't be bothered to do some basic research on the topic you chose for your story (you can't feel baby kick in the first month of pregnancy or start having all pregnancy symptoms next morning after sexual intercourse)

One of my biggest irks is reading 'I don't really know much about x element of my fic, but I can't be bothered researching it, so it could be all wrong' in the author's notes.
There's nothing wrong with an author letting their readers know they're not an expert on the subject and admitting that there may be errors or gaps in their information, but when they haven't even tried to research it, well, I don't know, it just sends the message that don't have much respect for their fic. And if they don't, how am I supposed to?
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From:krys33
Date:December 27th, 2006 02:24 pm (UTC)
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Research is your friend. People need to learn that. You obviously have an internet connection, USE IT. And spell checkers are nice. So are beta readers. They're there for a reason.

I hate the people who write Seely instead of Seeley. Do they know the show at all?! And I've actually seen a Tempy instead of Tempe. ::stabs::

Haha, I laugh at flamers. Especially the ones who 'typ lk ths'.
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From:threnody
Date:December 27th, 2006 04:14 pm (UTC)
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#4 is the biggest problem in this fandom, I think. No one wants to do research. I've almost stopped bothering to leave concrit, because I just keep repeating myself- research, research, research. And 99.999999% of the time I get replies telling me I'm an idiot, it's just for *fun*, and if they wanted to do research they'd go get caught up on their homework. They don't have *time* to research, it's way too much like work.

Drives. Me. Nuts. It's not even like it was in the old days, when you really had to hunt around to find stuff online, and sometimes had to actually take yourself to the freaking *library* to look up what you needed (I know, I've done it!). Now there's Wikipedia, there's Google- it took me three seconds to find out exactly how much older Legos are than Brennan (yes, someone put in a fic that legos came out when she was a kid).

These kids are supposed to have been raised with the internet, why the *hell* can't they use it to their advantage?
From:diabolitos
Date:December 28th, 2006 01:25 pm (UTC)
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Yup. I kinda got an idea that it's not worth spending time giving concrit. You will be called names for doing that. Makes you wonder what's the avarege age of those "writers".

And about internet usage for searching? Please... They probably think internet is good only for online games or something.
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From:frayedgray
Date:December 28th, 2006 11:42 am (UTC)
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1. Actually, I liked this mostly dialogue fic posted in 206_bones because it is pretty realistic. Beats any Brennan-throwing-herself-at-Booth/pregnant! Brennan fic anyday because that is too OOC
From:diabolitos
Date:December 28th, 2006 01:03 pm (UTC)
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I wasn't mentioning any particular story. I meant it in general. Not saying there is no single good story written as dialog only. But those who I have read have been unreadable - giving you a feeling you're looking at script.
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From:frayedgray
Date:December 28th, 2006 01:12 pm (UTC)
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hm, I don't really mind that if done properly. I hate OOC stuff more
From:diabolitos
Date:December 28th, 2006 01:29 pm (UTC)
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Urgh... Don't make me start on OOC. I didn't mention it only because there were posts about it in this community before.
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From:frayedgray
Date:December 28th, 2006 01:36 pm (UTC)
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heh I'm new to Bones fandom/just started reading fic
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From:like_electric
Date:December 28th, 2006 01:36 pm (UTC)
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But those who I have read have been unreadable - giving you a feeling you're looking at script.

Yeah, I think dialog only is a format probably more likely to be accompanied by bad grammar and to be unreadable. Someone not really interested in writing as much as seeing their particular situation happen might opt for it for its ease. And I've actually read dialog only fics (not in the Bones fandom yet, thank God) where everything is written literally like a script, like - Brennan: 'I don't think that's a good idea,' Booth: 'Why not?'. *cries* It was awful. :P
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From:frayedgray
Date:December 28th, 2006 01:48 pm (UTC)
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oh I haven't really read any TOTALLY dialog fic but yeah you need the context too, even scripts aren't 100% dialog
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From:imissimissyou
Date:November 13th, 2007 02:07 pm (UTC)
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I totally (!) agree with you (But admit that I've been lazy in the past about this)

And to Threnody; How come they even Write if researching is like work? Writing is a lot like work too (wierd... and plus; research is fun)!

Just-dialog, OOC-ness, acronyms, numbers, and names spelled wrong! Gah! Can't stand it!! (A Little research- atleast??)

From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 26th, 2009 07:13 pm (UTC)

Point of fact

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I realise this is - incredibly - old but I wanted to just add something. I agree with all of the above, however I'm only really huge on grammatical errors. Things like starting sentences with and or because, incorrect use of commas and lack of fullstops or capital letters; they're basic English no-no. Also it bothers me when people use words incorrectly, when they don;t know the true meaning of the word or when they try to write from the perspective of a foreign character and don't actually understand the context in which certain words are used. This is really Bones related but it bugs me when people try to write English dialouge and use typically English words in the wrong context. *sigh*

Sorry for bringing back an old post or whatever, I just found myself with a need to add my own two cents.
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Date:April 26th, 2009 07:14 pm (UTC)

Point of fact

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*ignore badly checked post avbove*

I realise this is - incredibly - old but I wanted to just add something. I agree with all of the above, however I'm only really huge on grammatical errors. Things like starting sentences with and or because, incorrect use of commas and lack of fullstops or capital letters; they're basic English no-nos. Also it bothers me when people use words incorrectly, when they don't know the true meaning of the word or when they try to write from the perspective of a foreign character and don't actually understand the context in which certain words are used. This is rarely Bones related but it bugs me when people try to write English dialouge and use typically English words in the wrong context. *sigh*

Sorry for bringing back an old post or whatever, I just found myself with a need to add my own two cents.